US41 Test and tune Friday Sept 24

[blkZ28spt]

I will probably be going to the T&T at 41 on friday night. The low is suppose to be upper 40's to low 50's. Anyone else up for it?
I'll actually be going home that night, my g/f will probably go and drive her car as well (place for my tires), and we will stop at 41 on the way.
I'll probably shoot to leave around five o'clock....give or take....but is open to possible change.

[purdueranger]

Well i will be up for a trip or 2 down the strip.

[Ru2n00n3er]

I'll decide in the middle of the week.

[m3power]

yea, i think i'll be down for leaving anytime after 5pm

[Cool Hand]

I work till 6, but would like to head up after that.

[DeadPedal]

i'm planning on going. not sure if i'm gonna skip my 4:30 class and leave with you guys, or just wait and go after.

meet at walmart? 5:00?

[shaggyboiler]

I normally would be drinking on Friday night, but racing the car sounds like fun. I can be there but not till about 5:15.

[camaro28]

I was just watching the news, apparently a low pressure front is coming in friday morning, possibly bringing isolated rain showers. The rain should be out of the state by early evening though, so we should be ok.

[SkillsMcGill]

Well fucking shit! Sounds like a plan.

[supr87gt]

If i can get the rear redone tomorrow and a trailor and my new tires mounted and some people from up here to roll down there with me I may come try to set the world on fire a couple times :twisted: Thats a lot of IF's though by Friday nite.

[m3power]

i'm planning on going. not sure if i'm gonna skip my 4:30 class and leave with you guys, or just wait and go after.

meet at walmart? 5:00?


how about meeting at about 5:30 - 6?? is that ok or do you guys wanna leave earlier??

[SkillsMcGill]

I'd kind of like to be on our way by 5 just to get there bf it gets busy and give us some time to get set up, so i'm still thinkin 4:30 unless that's going to be a big problem.

[shaggyboiler]

I can be there at 5:00

[m3power]

yea, i think 5 would be the best

[myjadeZXT]

I'm sick of driving to the track... i went yesterday and you can see my times :D So I'm gonna want a ride.

[DeadPedal]

i've got some buddies that are coming down from chicago, they should be here about 5:30 or 6.
luke is working till 5:30 or 6.

i'm planning on being at walmart at 5:30, possibly not leaving till 6.

[unclesam099]

Don't count on me, but I might be there. Problem is that I have practice at 4:45 til ~6:15... So I'm a 20%. And my clutch is going out. What's it cost to run?

[PurduinaM3]

What's it cost to run?

$25

[m3power]

i've got some buddies that are coming down from chicago, they should be here about 5:30 or 6.
luke is working till 5:30 or 6.

i'm planning on being at walmart at 5:30, possibly not leaving till 6.


ok, i change my mind, yea 5:30 at walmart sounds good.

[blkZ28spt]

I'll probably be there sometime between 4-5, and leave soon thereafter.

Random info:
Unfortunately, when I installed my new ported throttle body, the throttle blade was open WAY too far and the "idle" was approaching redline :eek:, so my times won't be as improved as I had hoped. I had to put the stocker back on. And not only that, but I set an engine light in the process AND it ate up the time I was goign to use to change my oil that has seafoam in it AND I have five hours of class tomorrow. :(

[rutan00z28]

out of curiosity, why do you have seafoam in your oil?

[Ru2n00n3er]

DOH!

[DyerMullet]

Seafoam is good for everything.

[blkZ28spt]

out of curiosity, why do you have seafoam in your oil?


DOH!


That about explains it. I picked the wrong damn tube to put it through the first time, having had zero experience with seafoam or anything of the sort. However, seafoam can be used in oil. I just didn't want to since I changed it about two weeks ago. :doh: I've been real busy this week and am really behind. Two exams, plus my 20 hours in class a week, and I changed my plugs and wires already.....I'm in the middle of trying to get my stupid new ported TB to work :mad: and I still have to minorly pack (going to 41 on my way home tomorrow) and I have to get my shit for the track together yet........and I have class basically from 9:30-3:20 tomorrow..........but I'll be at walmart ready to go b/t 4-5 somehow. :D

Oye

[trax]

Won't Mr. Main Bearings get a little PO'ed when your 5W30 is contaminated?

[myjadeZXT]

hehe... don't worry about it pete, it is necessary for something to break at the track... might as well be because of seafoam in the oil.

[shaggyboiler]

So whats the final verdict? 5:00 or 5:30?

[DyerMullet]

Count me in.

[SkillsMcGill]

Let's leave at 5...if that doesn't work get another group to go at 6 or something[/b]

[DeadPedal]

i'm alomst certanly not leaving till 6, so if there's a second group i'll be with them.

[blkZ28spt]

Check what i said earlier, though some of you already know this, I will just be leaving myself (well, my g/f is driving too) sometime before five. See you there. :cool:

[DyerMullet]

We had a good turnout.

I had alot of fun. My best of the night was,

13.626 @97.58mph with a 1.858 60'.

The harder I launched it the harder it ran.

I got the 1.858 60' with a 11 pound launch on slicks non posi NO BLOW OFF VALVE.

The slicks being 28 inches tall hurt my gearing and it showed on my mph. Also after the launch the car would bog a little, untill the 11# launch.

Scott

[a4dp]

2.003 60'
9.538 @ 71.31 1/8th
15.052 @ 88.53 1/4th

I know it has 14's in it. :mad:

[trax]

Timeslip is back in my car... but I finally can say I drive a 12 second car

12.9 @ 111.12
60' was ~1.9

Based on the MPH the car still has more left in it. Definately gotta work on the launch. But I'm gettin there.

In other news, Amanda still wants to be my girlfriend even after putting up with a long-ass ride in my non-airconditioned car and turning a dinner date into a track night. I think she's a keeper :D

[m3power]

i had a good night, i finally found out what my car runs in the quarter.... i was shooting for high 13's but i couldn't even manage to break low 14's. i should definitely improve on my launching, but then again my car is not made to go in a straight line. oh well, atleast i accomplished my goal of beating a 350z. twice.

0-60ft: 2.209
1/4: 14.440 @ 97.18

[DijabutiA]

2.003 60'
9.538 @ 71.31 1/8th
15.052 @ 88.53 1/4th

I know it has 14's in it. :mad:

Dude, you got beat by the BMW...
Damn you need the clutch or whatever, 2 second for a 60 in an awd car is horrific.

[shaggyboiler]

I didn't do what I thought I could (but what else is new)

13.627 @ 107.2mph
2.169 60'

If I ever get traction maybe I'll have a good run.

[shaggyboiler]

BTW my new turbo will be here next week. Need to get some time and put it on. Along with my springs.

[a4dp]

2.003 60'
9.538 @ 71.31 1/8th
15.052 @ 88.53 1/4th

I know it has 14's in it. :mad:

Dude, you got beat by the BMW...
Damn you need the clutch or whatever, 2 second for a 60 in an awd car is horrific.

He doesn't want any in the twisties. ;)

I don't NEED a new clutch. Its fine, just not strong enough for hard launches.

[RoyMan]

i had a good night, i finally found out what my car runs in the quarter.... i was shooting for high 13's but i couldn't even manage to break low 14's. i should definitely improve on my launching, but then again my car is not made to go in a straight line. oh well, atleast i accomplished my goal of beating a 350z. twice.

0-60ft: 2.209
1/4: 14.440 @ 97.18

awesome :clap:

[m3power]

2.003 60'
9.538 @ 71.31 1/8th
15.052 @ 88.53 1/4th

I know it has 14's in it. :mad:

Dude, you got beat by the BMW...
Damn you need the clutch or whatever, 2 second for a 60 in an awd car is horrific.

He doesn't want any in the twisties. ;)

I don't NEED a new clutch. Its fine, just not strong enough for hard launches.



well, it doesn't help me that you have awd in the corners, and also it doesn't help that i have horrible understeer. but can you drift around those corners? :D

[DijabutiA]

2.003 60'
9.538 @ 71.31 1/8th
15.052 @ 88.53 1/4th

I know it has 14's in it. :mad:

Dude, you got beat by the BMW...
Damn you need the clutch or whatever, 2 second for a 60 in an awd car is horrific.

He doesn't want any in the twisties. ;)

I don't NEED a new clutch. Its fine, just not strong enough for hard launches.

Yea, just like you dont NEED a K04 either right? ;)

[a4dp]

2.003 60'
9.538 @ 71.31 1/8th
15.052 @ 88.53 1/4th

I know it has 14's in it. :mad:

Dude, you got beat by the BMW...
Damn you need the clutch or whatever, 2 second for a 60 in an awd car is horrific.

He doesn't want any in the twisties. ;)

I don't NEED a new clutch. Its fine, just not strong enough for hard launches.



well, it doesn't help me that you have awd in the corners, and also it doesn't help that i have horrible understeer. but can you drift around those corners? :D

You can drift all you want. ;)

Paul, control arms and tie rods will come first. Then a hitch and a trailor. THEN a k04, but coilovers may come before that. :cool:

[Jeremy94GT]

I didn't do what I thought I could (but what else is new)

13.627 @ 107.2mph
2.169 60'

If I ever get traction maybe I'll have a good run.

Ahhh...Shane....I'm pretty disappointed in you.

You'll need more than that to keep up with me ;)

[shaggyboiler]

Thanks Jeremy.

I'm pretty disapointed in my performace as well. I'm begining to think its not the car but the driver.

Hoping some stiffer suspension will help that rocking back on take off and allow me more traction.

And after a couple more things I have to put on we'll see what it can do.

[Good Doctor]

shane, the car mphs pretty damn well though. 107 is moving pretty well along, must be a great car from a roll.

what tire are you running at the track?

[blkZ28spt]

I didn't do as good as I thought I could either. The track was very slick compared to last time I was there. I spun on 5/7 of my runs. Best was:

60' 1.74
1/8 8.04
1/4 12.63@106

The rest of the runs I spun to a 1.8-1.9 60' and ~12.8. Damn the ported throttle body for having to ride along in the back seat instead of in the engine bay where it belonged!

Although, asyou can see by looking at my sig, I was very close to what I ran before when I did stick. Difference is that it was 20* warmer that day!

[shaggyboiler]

I'm running 17" BFG CompTA DR's.

And yes from the roll its awesome.

[DijabutiA]

That Dodge aint got no trackson.

[shaggyboiler]

Perhaps with the slicks I'll be ordering that will change.

[Stil2stock]

i had a good night, i finally found out what my car runs in the quarter.... i was shooting for high 13's but i couldn't even manage to break low 14's. i should definitely improve on my launching, but then again my car is not made to go in a straight line. oh well, atleast i accomplished my goal of beating a 350z. twice.

0-60ft: 2.209
1/4: 14.440 @ 97.18

Motor Trend claims a 14.0 @ 101.2mph for a stock 2003 350z. Granted thier drivers are pros, but if the 350zs at the track were modded (assuming since they were there at all, but i could be wrong) they should be able to get 14 flat no problem with a decent driver.

[Louis]

Damn the ported throttle body for having to ride along in the back seat instead of in the engine bay where it belonged!



you whore. It takes a 10 mm socket, a pair of pliers, and 5 minutes to put on an LS1 TB!!

Whats your excuse? :D bitch!

[Curt]

Motor Trend, thier drivers are pros,

That's funny Matt... Their drivers SUCK.. They got a 14.6 out of a Gen 2 lightnng.. Everyone else on the planet was getting 13.8's out of em..

All they do is launch and plant... Smoke'em if ya gottem

Sounds like you need to get your launch down.. 14.4@97 is alittle funny.. The HP is there, the traction and launch aren't.

[trax]

He showed me the problem. Basically when the new TB is on, the throttle cable is too damn short, so the thing hangs open at about 30% throttle. Looks like GM changed the TB cam somewhere between the 98 and 02 motors. It looks like a newer series TB cable would do the trick.

Gotta call up Jason Cromer, Nathan ;)

[m3power]

i had a good night, i finally found out what my car runs in the quarter.... i was shooting for high 13's but i couldn't even manage to break low 14's. i should definitely improve on my launching, but then again my car is not made to go in a straight line. oh well, atleast i accomplished my goal of beating a 350z. twice.

0-60ft: 2.209
1/4: 14.440 @ 97.18

Motor Trend claims a 14.0 @ 101.2mph for a stock 2003 350z. Granted thier drivers are pros, but if the 350zs at the track were modded (assuming since they were there at all, but i could be wrong) they should be able to get 14 flat no problem with a decent driver.


basically, i beat the 350z on the first run, but when i compared timeslips, he did have a better time and speed than me, but his launch was horrible. my launch is horrible just as well. on the second run, he mis-shifted and got like a 16 something. but since i know my 1/4 times now, i'm just happy that my car performs decent. i'm not gonna worry too much about improving my times until a i do a major upgrade, i.e. turbo. i'll also have to keep on practicing my launching.

[m3power]

also, when motortrend tested out the 1995 m3, they said they launched it at 4500 rpm and got the 1/4 in 14.3 @ 98 mph. that's fuckin nuts considering when i try launching anything above 3000 rpm all i get is smoke and unlimited wheelspin. even at 2500 rpm, tim said my tires were spinning too much.

[Louis]

Well Duh!

The 98 cars had a BIG cam on the TB. After that, they came with the smaller cams.

Bring it by sometime, and Ill swap it, and swap the cams. It is not a big deal. T15 safety torx, and some brain power ;)

[blkZ28spt]

Damn the ported throttle body for having to ride along in the back seat instead of in the engine bay where it belonged!



you whore. It takes a 10 mm socket, a pair of pliers, and 5 minutes to put on an LS1 TB!!

Whats your excuse? :D bitch!

Although pete already stated, the problem is that I swapped them on thur and when I started the car it did just what I expected, and when I shut it off about one second later the tach froze at ~4,500 rpm and all I did was let it "idle". :P

[blkZ28spt]

Well Duh!

The 98 cars had a BIG cam on the TB. After that, they came with the smaller cams.

Bring it by sometime, and Ill swap it, and swap the cams. It is not a big deal. T15 safety torx, and some brain power ;)

Actually the 98 cars have a SMALL cam and the later cars have a BIG cam. :P Trust me, mine's a 98, and the cam is nearly half the size of the one they sent me.

[MBPEJ20]

what kinda tires on the M3?

[m3power]

i've got shitty sumitomo HTR+'s that have been worn down from burnouts and donuts and shit, in car and driver i think they were using michelin pilot sport 2

[DijabutiA]

Perhaps with the slicks I'll be ordering that will change.

Arent you going to break your diff or something else catastrophic? I'm suprised no one has made TRAKSON bars for your car yet. You need to post a mod list somewhere, so I dont have to ask you if you got this or that yet, lol. Im interested in seeing how well your car turns out ;) Do you still need to put the springs on your car?

[DijabutiA]

i've got shitty sumitomo HTR+'s that have been worn down from burnouts and donuts and shit, in car and driver i think they were using michelin pilot sport 2

LMAO; your comparing your sumitomos to freakin PS2s? HAHAHAH

[MBPEJ20]

theres ur answer right there, buy some real tires. PS2 were not out in 95

[m3power]

theres ur answer right there, buy some real tires. PS2 were not out in 95

a) i don't got the fucking money to buy the best tires

b) well, the m3's in 95 had whatever was the best michelin tire out at that time

[MBPEJ20]

u got money for an M3, a bunch of dinan shit but skimpped on tires eh.

[shaggyboiler]

Perhaps with the slicks I'll be ordering that will change.

Arent you going to break your diff or something else catastrophic? I'm suprised no one has made TRAKSON bars for your car yet. You need to post a mod list somewhere, so I dont have to ask you if you got this or that yet, lol. Im interested in seeing how well your car turns out ;) Do you still need to put the springs on your car?

I'll get a mod list here for you soon.

Yes I need to do my springs VERY soon. Think it might help the damn squatting in my car a little. Was talking with other SRT owners and some of them are pulling 1.7 on the slicks. Thats what I'm talking about.

[m3power]

u got money for an M3, a bunch of dinan shit but skimpped on tires eh.

yea, i did buy the m3 myself, but that's where all the money went. for all the dinan and ac schnitzer parts, the previous owner had all that installed so i didnt drop a penny on anything except for an intake and headlamps. also, he had the sumitomo tires on beforehand and i can't afford tires.

[MBPEJ20]

start saving man

[m3power]

look at my post in "fucking teach these kids something", again i'll specifically state that my car is mainly a street car, i am not worried spending the most money on high performance tires, and also, if auto-xing is all about skill, then why should tires matter so much? (i'm not talking about comparing racing slicks to street tires)

[MBPEJ20]

just so u know, ALL OF OUR CARS ARE STREET CARS. AUTOXING IS 95% skill. for example, no matter what u have, u wont beat me. But im not racing against you. Im racing against other ppl that are on my level as a driver. Then you need TIRES. nothing else matters as much as tires.

Ehrlic just got full suspension but hes on stock tires, and he still cant drive either. So his times wont improve at all. Once he learns to drive, he can get good tires and improve by 2-3 sec.

you should seriously go autox. ITS WAY BETTER TO LEARN ON CRAPPY TIRES. if you get good tires now, u will just kill them.

and seriously, we are shit talking a lot tonight, but we are just joking.

There is nothing wrong with ur tires, and they are a good tire to learn on. I learned on even shittier tires when I first started and I'm gonna race on my Re92 for a bit on oct. 23rd anyway man. The only person you are competing against is urself. Do you want to be a better driver???? go autox and try to beat ur own time everytime. WE are all there to have fun.

[m3power]

just so u know, ALL OF OUR CARS ARE STREET CARS. AUTOXING IS 95% skill. for example, no matter what u have, u wont beat me. But im not racing against you. Im racing against other ppl that are on my level as a driver. Then you need TIRES. nothing else matters as much as tires.
you should seriously go autox. ITS WAY BETTER TO LEARN ON CRAPPY TIRES. if you get good tires now, u will just kill them.

alright, i understand everyone has a street car, what i mean is just for the streets, i rarely take my car to any races because i know how much wear and tear it is on the car and i don't have money. i'd say your comment about me not beating you a little cocky, but granted i'll take it that you've done it for a while and that you're good at it. i also understand that you're on a different level, i am in class BSP. again, i know how much wear and tear it is on my car and i cant afford it. so quit telling me to go and i'm fucking exhausted from typing and i'm sure everyone is annoyed at this endless conversation, so i'm done replying for this thread.

[Louis]

AUTOXING IS 95% skill.


A bad driver in a good car will be good

A Bad car with a good driver will be good

A Bad car with a bad driver will suck

A Good car with a good driver will be best.


You are only as capable as the car. If the car wont turn in, it wont turn in. That is unrelated to the driver.


your 95% statement is only 5% true.

[m3power]

hahahhahaha, ok, this is my final reply....

[MBPEJ20]

yeah im cocky, I will own u, come prove me wrong then, if u think ur are decent.

[MBPEJ20]

louis, ur not allowed to post anymore, im trying to talk to some kids, not to u.

im sure his M3 can turn in just fine.

[Louis]

:D